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Thursday, October 29, 2015

Aliya Mustafina : knee surgery on 3rd November


World and Olympic Champion, Aliya Mustafina, will travel back to Moscow on the 2nd November, ready for surgery on an injured meniscus in her right knee on the 3rd, head coach Valentina Rodionenko said today in an interview with R Sport.  Aliya tore the ACL in her left knee in spring 2011 and recovered from surgery to win gold in the London Olympics in 2012.

The injury is not serious and it is expected that recovery will take six to eight weeks, allowing Aliya to begin training for Rio in early January, all being well.  'It's just a strain', said Rodionenko, adding that medical advice suggested it would be better for Aliya to have the surgery than suffer the pain.

Aliya made the decision herself to have the surgery in Russia this time, rather than in Germany.   She will make her recovery at Round Lake (the national training centre) and if she is well enough will travel to Israel on the 10th, to participate in the rehabilitation camp with the rest of the national team.

Aliya herself has said that she doesn't consider that missing this World Championships will be detrimental to her Olympic preparation.  Valentina added her voice to this, saying, 'Everything will be fine, do not worry'.


Start list, WAG AA #glasgow2015


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Davai, Seda! 

Tuesday, October 27, 2015

The domino effect - Russia collapses and must rise again

Newcomer Seda Tutkhalyan did well to improve her floor performance for her team.

It was a tough competition today for Russia.  Put simply, they fell too much for a better outcome.  

The girls were on a swell following a great vault performance and two top class bars exercises.  Next, however, returning champion Viktoria Komova went for an extra dimension on one of her pirouettes - and fell.  It was a domino effect that ran through to first time World championships gymnast Seda Tutkhalyan on beam, and carried over via Kharenkova, back again to Komova. 4.5 points were lost as the checkers tumbled one after another.  In the end, Moscow's Maria Paseka steadied the boat with her fluent floor exercises, and Tutkhalyan held things together with a routine that was much improved since Monday.  Afanasyeva topped things off.  

At the end of the comp, the girls were all cheers and smiles.  But there were glum looks behind the ironic smiles.  I think that all the team will be very unhappy after losing the medal in such a way.

What's the learning here?  It's not the fact that you fell, that can happen to anyone.  More the manner of the reaction to the fall.  

There were some good moments.  Vault saw a significant improvement since Sofia, and floor was much better than in qualifications.  There is clearly much potential on the team.  But potential does not win medals.  Russia needs to learn how to balance on the crest of a wave and exploit the adrenalin of success to pursue gold or silver in future.  This is exactly what the USA does so well and, today, China and Britain did better than Russia.  

Valentina says that all the coaches and gymnasts are upset by this performance. And so they should be.  Even President of the RGF, Vasily Titov, looked a bit sheepish at the medal ceremony.  Perhaps heads will roll, and Romania won't be the only ones seeking coaches after this.  After qualifications Russia looked to be respectable silver medalists here.  But they weren't even scratch bronze medalists.  Home advantage for rivals Britain or not, they should have done better.

In quals, Komova seemed to have mastered her nerves and to be on track in her revival as a team leader.  Hmph - it is back to the drawing board there.  Something has to change if the Olympian is truly to have profited from her career break.  The youngsters have more grace from me for their errors, understandable under the pressure of competition and the strain of seeing their returning hero collapse at the first hurdle.  

I don't want to blame any individual for a team failing - and the coaches have to take much of the responsibility - but Russia needs more confidence than that.  Phoney smiles and shrugged shoulders are probably a sarcastic or philosophical reaction to adverse media and fan reactions to tears - what do you expect, they seem to say?   But I would suggest that the girls need to start building themselves back up during EFs.  I hope that everyone will reflect and realise that this was a lost opportunity to pressurise America in the run up to Rio.  A close fight without Mustafina here could have been even closer with her next summer.  Now, the exclamation mark will remain a question mark, and the pressure is all on Russia to prove themselves once more.  The psychology of winning has to be more positive than we saw today.

Congratulations to the medalists, who all fought hard for their booty.  To all the finalists, who truly deserved to be at the top table of gymnastics.  Good luck for the coming days, and bring home some medals.   Keep heart in the coming months as you prepare for the Olympics.

If Komova wins a medal on bars on Saturday, I hope she gives her beam finals place to Maria Kharenkova - who deserves a boost after a disappointing time here.  The young girl has been competing with a painful right leg throughout quals and finals.  She and Seda both looked very downmouthed about this result.  They are Russia's future and both are much better gymnasts than we saw today.  Russia cannot survive on past glories forever.

Full results are here.  Fetch a handkerchief, a gin and tonic or a bar of chocolate.  No, all three.  http://www.longinestiming.com/File/Download?id=00000E0001000103FFFFFFFFFFFFFF03





Monday, October 26, 2015

WAG start list

WAG start list, tomorrow 18.39 start #Glasgow2015 http://www.longinestiming.com/File/Download?id=00000E0001000103FFFFFFFFFFFFFF01

GOOD LUCK TO ALL!

Sunday, October 25, 2015

The changing identity of artistic gymnastics - what do you think?

There is a really good comment on my post 'Maybe it's the end'.  It is from Cami, and I didn't want it to remain relatively hidden at the bottom of the post as it is full of ideas for discussion.  Thank you, Cami ... 

Cami says - 

'You make excellent points, about how the identity of artistic gymnastics is changing. that�s the nature of sport though. i feel artistic gymnastics is still unique from any other branch because it is gymnast and apparatus, and nothing else. they are artists with their own bodies (no balls/hoops/or partners). a gymnast must be entirely focused on their physical, emotional, and mental self-awareness. 
but if you are to give a gymnast a numerical score, there must be objectivity. in hockey, soccer - all goals are worth the same regardless of how much style they have. in basketball, �easy� shots are 2 points and �hard� shots are 3, regardless of whether they�re jumpshots or layups, half-court or right at the 3point line. 
Gymnastics has tried to mimic this with the dichotomous d- and e-scores. but ultimately we cannot be like that because our athletes don�t just complete, they perform. as an american, I argue that Simone Biles is artistic because her gymnastics performance is a reflection of her, like painting reflects its painter or a composition reflects its composer. you see it in the way she quirks her hips or throws her shoulders back or directs her line of vision, not just in her flips and jumps. It�s what makes her difficult gymnastics different than say, Aly Raisman�s difficult gymnastics; it�s a difference not just in toe-point and leap-extension but in the ability to draw people in. I feel Aly�s lack of artistry gave her zero cushion in her scores today (especially on BB�), where as oppositely her unique big tricks gave her cushion room in 2012. 
my current favorite american floor routine actually belongs to Bailie Key, one of our non-travelling alternates to worlds. in 2015 she�s struggled some with skills due to a growth spurt, but her floor artistry is loads better. I can tell that she has dedicated a lot of time into how she can best use her body and her strengths to tell the story of her routine. if you haven�t seen it yet, there are several online videos of her on FX this past summer, and I�d love to know your opinion. another american i�d like to know your opinion of is Brenna Dowell (she competed on floor today without her music), who just finished the 2014-2015 year competing on the american university level. it�s a whole different environment for gymnasts, with lower difficulty but many more contests/performances. she�s back on the elite stage now with nothing to lose, and I�d love an outsider�s before/after opinion. 
I won't pretend to know as much about gymnasts from countries other than my own, but some of my recent favorites are vika komova (i thought for sure she was going to win AA in 2012, watching rotation by rotation...), jessica lopez of VEN, several JPN gymnasts, and i'm totally in love with this new crop of NED ladies. if russia and romania represent the "old guard" of artistry, i tend to prefer romania - no offense to you - simply because they seem to have more variety, at least among the girls chosen for worlds/olympics/etc. this is just my opinion watching the competitions, the finalized versions of each routine, not knowing their stories or how they individually approach gymnastics.'


I would just like to add my own take to this - 

Objectivity is not the same as fairness.  Objectivity is a philosophical stance, a way of seeing the world that involves measurement and calculation.  Fairness is a state of making judgements that are even-handed and free of bias.  

It is important to understand objectivity if we want to adopt it in any methodology.  I am simplifying here but want to try to make this clear.  Objectivity takes the position of viewing the world from a distance, as if individual phenomena can be observed as a separate entity from other phenomena and from the person doing the observation.  It assumes that phenomena can be MEASURED and CALCULATED.  Objectivity seeks to identify the phenomenon in detail according to existing knowledge and is dependent on a set of assumptions we call a 'paradigm'.  These assumptions are critical because they are the basis of the objective view of the world and if they are off, can lead to continued misconceptions and a skewing of the vision and measurements.   So for example if our paradigm (assumptions) is that the world is flat and we want to calculate how to travel from one side of the world to another, we would have to take into account the possibility that at some point we would fall off the edge of the world.  If we assume (it is our paradigm) that the world is round, then we can calculate our distance in a straight continuous line.  

Since the early 1990s the FIG has repeatedly emphasised their opinion about the importance of objectivity to fair judging, but WITHOUT STATING THE ASSUMPTIONS or making clear its world view/paradigm of gymnastics. A fair description of what was the intended meaning of 'artistry' appeared in the Code of Points as recently as 1989 but at some point was removed without discussion or debate and was never replaced with anything else.  There has never, to my knowledge, been a clear statement of what the FIG believe the sport is, nor of the assumptions behind the decision to pursue a stance of objectivity in the marking.  I believe that the FIG blithely uses the term 'objectivity' as a synonym for 'fairness' without really considering the implications, or operationalising the Code in a way that is consistent with its world view, assumptions or paradigm of gymnastics.  I also think they would find it very hard to articulate their paradigm without conducting some significant research amongst their members or at the very least undertaking a thorough literature review.  

As you mention, gymnastics' identity has always been fraught with creative tension and it changes all the time - that is why we have so many different forms and sub-forms of the sport.  At present though, women's artistic gymnastics is being torn apart in various ways by the many forces to which it is subjected (too much to write now but there are whole fields of thought involved and while this era isn't yet provoking a rich vein of literature, hopefully it will soon and not just me).  

At the end of the day, are people happy with the way the sport looks?  Is the competitive field deep and rich and diverse?  (I know it is internationally, but I mean in terms of the gymnastics - look at the floor final for a start.)  I understand why fans are delighted to see the artistic presentation of the NED and BEL teams - they are making strides forward - but get real - they finished in 8th and 11th respectively as teams - this is hardly likely to transform the sport.  

Finally, you make a fair point about the relative measurability of hockey and football compared to gymnastics and the idea that the aesthetic doesn't really count there.  The big question is - do we think the aesthetic counts in gymnastics at all?  Your point therefore is really about deciding our chosen paradigm of gymnastics.  If we don't want it to be artistic, it doesn't have to be ... But then isn't that another sport?  Do we want acrobatic gymnastics to replace artistic gymnastics at the Olympics?  We really have to think about this!

Gymnastics can learn from ballet ... Just imagine!


Gymnastics can learn such a lot from ballet.  Imagine beam and FX with such wonderful leaps and turns ... And these are on a hard floor!!  https://www.facebook.com/stpetersburgguide/videos/1063907796967276/

Saturday, October 24, 2015

A hypothetical stance amid nerdy calculations. China come 8th, Holland third. Russia wins!



Calculating scores using the 3-3 format of finals produces a slightly different finishing order than today.  China take bronze ahead of Britain, Japan takes fifth ahead of Italy, Netherlands jumps ahead of Canada.  It's a different competition and we will just have to see, but intriguing nonetheless.

USA.          46.966 44.649 43.198 44.198.    179.011

Russia.       45.433 45.566 43.432 41.599.    176.03

GBR.          44.865. 42.066 41.699. 43.2.       171.83

CHN.          44.698 43.298 42.033 42.133      172.162

ITA              44.024 40.699 41.699 42.465      168.887

JPN            43.933 41.699 41.599 42.766      169.997

CAN           43.8 41.999 41.516 41.266           168.581

NED            42.116 42.133 43.232 41.766.      169.247

I also worked out that without Biles, USA would stand marginally behind Russia.  A hypothetical stance I know.

USA B.        46.099  43.049  42.232  43.633     175.013

I thought it would be interesting to work out the execution scores standings.  These show an even bigger change, with NED leaping into third place from eighth, ITA moving up from fifth to fourth, GBR finishing fifth, and China dropping all the way to eighth.  Maybe somebody else wants to work out the scores from ninth downwards to see what the true standings are ...  

Of course China did have a very bad day.  I worked out Romania's E score and it was less than 3 points below China whose D scores saved the day for them.  I didn't see Romania's routines, but their e scores on uneven bars in particular seem brutal.  They competed in the first subdivision; surely scores crept upwards especially towards the later part of the second day.  But that can't account for it all.  Mistakes are mistakes but this looks like a hatchet job to me.  

USA.  28.566.  25.749. 25.532  26.066.     105.913

RUS   27.433.  26.266  25.532. 24.699.      103.93

GBR. 27.465.   24.066  25.166. 24.9.          101.597

CHN. 27.232.   23.332. 24.033  24.033.       98.63

ITA     27.624.   23.899  25.299  25.432      102.254

JPN.  27.333.   24.333  24.599. 25.266       101.531

CAN. 27.233.   24.266. 24.233. 24.766.      100.498

NED  26.816.    25.233. 26.032. 25.274       103.355

A calculator in my hands is a dangerous thing.  E&OE.

With thanks to Gymcastic for the picture of the scoreboard.


Maybe it's the end ...


This is what I was thinking as I watched the slow, sad drift downwards of the Romanian team in the rankings.  I hadn't envisaged it happening, and it gave me a feeling of foreboding.  Perhaps Russia would succumb to the same forces as Romania and (relatively) quietly drift out of sight of international gymnastics.  I thought - perhaps this was the end for the old guard of gymnastics?  There has been a power shift and America has emerged the winner, while Romania and Russia, the vestigial remains of European dominance of the sport, have finally lost.

So I was very much relieved to see the team put on their game face yesterday and produce a far better showing than I had expected.  Team captain Afanasyeva more than pulled her weight and the other Olympians, Komova and Paseka, made their commitment and experience count.  The youngsters, Spiridonova, Tutkhalyan and Kharenkova, also put on a good show.  In particular Seda Tutkhalyan, whose first World Championships this is, fought hard, with determination for her team.

Would Mustafina have justified her place on the team under the circumstances, even if she had been healthy?  I doubt it.  Until the great champion is able to pull herself back to her best form, able to train fully, improve her routines and her competitive consistency, she has been outstripped by the current team.  Physical injury has hampered her significantly in preparing for these Games - and she deserves a break - but it works two ways. It is true to say that Mustafina has - through no fault of her own - fallen short of her usual standards.  It is also true to say that the current team has outstripped their leader - at least in the short term.  I hope that they realise this.  With junior Angelina Melnikova due to step up to senior level from January, Mustafina will have to fight hard to regain her position on this team.  One thing that the Russians have been able to achieve over the past four years is a relative improvement in their strength in depth and time always takes a toll in gymnastics.

The competition is not over for these girls - they will all contribute to the team final on Tuesday and then all but the unlucky Kharenkova will have all around and event finals to contribute to.  But the team has done its job - the main mission of the current competition was to qualify direct to Rio without having to go to the test event, and that has been comfortably achieved.  A real test of their competition readiness will be the punishing 3-3 format of the team final, and this is where Mustafina might have had an edge, for she always had the grit to pull out bravura performances precisely when needed and exactly when you didn't expect it. 

We still do not know the final outcome of the qualifying competition, which continues today.  The USA will compete from 4.30 pm.  They are expected to take first place easily and certainly if Biles delivers and the rest don't falter, they will have the upper hand.

There has been a strong Americanisation of the women's sport over the past twenty years and it is now considered almost inevitable that the USA will win team and AA competitions in most if not all major WAG competitions.  Other countries do have a say, and we do see some distinct styles - the sharp technical lines of the Chinese, the pyrotechnical acrobatics and stability of the Americans and the classical presentation of some of the Russians - but broadly gymnastics has become a fight to perform the most difficult 'tricks' regardless of the aesthetic, and to avoid a list of movements that are prescribed as errors. I hope it's not considered insulting to suggest that this is largely a North American construct of the sport.

Gymnastics is known as 'artistic gymnastics' in the English language and there is an assumption of the aesthetic contained within the rules and heritage of the sport.  We, as athletes, coaches, judges, fans and observers, have spent a lot of time and energy trying to understand this.  We have also tried to fathom why the sport is so much less appealing these days as an art form, than it was twenty or thirty years ago.

I do not think we can use this fact as a whip to punish our gymnasts and coaches with, but there is no artistry left any more in women's gymnastics.  I hear discussions of artistry today and the vocabulary that is used - 'toe point', 'great line', 'entertaining choreography' - is really only a superficial description of what artistry used to be like.  In practice it describes an attempt to provide an appearance of artistry that, for the most part, is merely surface.  Continuing to call the sport 'artistic' is a denial of the true status of the sport today.  I would argue that that is a travesty and is very much something that we should all be thinking about and talking about, regardless of who is winning.  Or it very well may be the end for artistic gymnastics, especially when you think that there is already a sport out there called acrobatic gymnastics, and how the Olympics so frequently look to cull and edit their lists of sports.

Is artistry a mere frippery, an adjunct to the main thing; even - given the emphasis on women's gymnastics - a degradation of sport designed particularly to hobble strong, athletic women in obtaining the correct esteem and credit for their participation in an incredibly demanding sport?  A way of insisting that women comply with their defined societal role as ornamental, fragile and pretty chattels of a masculine society?  I think that to try to come up with the answer, we have to look more broadly than just gymnastics.

Maybe readers will have more examples to contribute, but I can draw on a film I saw quite recently, Red Army, a documentary about the Soviet ice hockey team of the 1980s.  They won almost everything, and were wonderful to watch.  Listening to the stars speak about their training and competition strategy - coach Tarasov drew ideas for the team's game play from ballet and chess - you came to realise that the artistry you saw on the ice came from an utter, intimate grasp of the most complex shots and manoeuvres.  It involved complete commitment - physical, mental, emotional - from the players and the coaches.  There was no room for mercy and only sacrifice led to these great, unforgettable performances.   I'm no expert on ice hockey, but watching them compete on the big screen was mesmerising, entertaining, captivating.  Artistry here was not about a deliberate, contrived aesthetic, but about a consummate grasp of the sport that elevated its performance to a point of perfection that was capable of appreciation on many different levels, beyond the sporting.


In gymnastics, you don't have the same game play and unpredictability as in hockey, but you do have a combination of the breathtaking and inconceivable - I will call it the technical dimension (difficulty) - with the intangible elegance of movement - I will call that the aesthetic dimension.  Neither dimension, taken on its own, is artistry.  Toe point and line contributes to the aesthetic dimension but is not artistry.  You cannot contrive to be artistic, you simply have to be brilliant beyond all belief.

But there aren't any female gymnasts who can achieve both technical and aesthetic artistry these days.  The sport has simply reached a point that it is out of balance and the demands of difficulty are so great that only one or the other can prevail.  What's the point of gymnastics, unless it looks great?  Biles, the great trickster, is amazing and captivating in her reliable performance of ultra difficult tumbling, but her work lacks a certain aesthetic dimension.  Afanasyeva has great posture, line and expression but her work is less strong on a technical level.  Combine Biles and Afanasyeva and you have artistry.  Anything less than that is merely satisfying different levels of artistry.

Is there something wrong when the sport's Code is demanding more than can be delivered on a technical level, whilst maintaining the aesthetic?  In men's gymnastics, there is - somehow - a better balance, and so gymnasts like Kohei Uchimura - well, Kohei Uchimura - can present the more consummate grasp of both technique and the aesthetic that amounts to artistry. That's my way of saying that, fundamentally, men's gymnastics is now, by and large, more artistic than women's.

Female gymnasts who can combine the aesthetic with the technical - such as, for example, Elena Produnova - exist in the past. No gymnasts can compete with the advancing levels of difficulty whilst also maintaining the aesthetic appearance of the work.  The technical dimension has outgrown the aesthetic.  There is too much difficulty and the aesthetic is relatively too unimportant.  This is a problem with the conceptualisation and operation of the Code, not the fault of the judges, coaches and gymnasts.  Can we find a way of improving matters? 

So I have drifted and meandered through a wide ranging discussion of the current state of the competitive field in gymnastics, the likely winners and losers of the competition, and the state of gymnastics today.  What I would really like to say, from my heart, is 'take heart' to the gymnasts of Romania.  You are too good to remain the shadows for long and I am sure you will do better very soon.  I would like to say 'well done' to the Russian team, and to encourage them to keep working in the same way.  We will be supporting you every inch of the way.  I would also like to say 'good luck' to the rest of the teams competing, because it is always so nice to see everyone do their best.

To my readers, if anyone has got this far, I would like to say, 'keep thinking and chatting' as you all have valid opinions about the artistry debate.  Also, 'enjoy the world championships' - because they happen all too rarely, and because once they are over, we won't be able to wait for the next big competition and we will be chatting and opining all about what will happen in a few months' time in Rio.  Every cloud has a silver lining, and in a very selfish sense at least Romania's problems will mean that we will be able to see a good competition in six months' time, at the Olympic test event.  I would also like to think that whatever the final outcome of this competition Russia will go home, train hard and, in their inimitable way, find a way of combining difficulty and artistry so that they can take gold in Rio.




Friday, October 23, 2015

RRG Picture of the Day - Viktoria Komova


I just had to share this.  Courtesy of the RGF whose picture galleries give us so much.

So glad Viktoria is back.  It takes a lot of courage to revive yourself in the public eye.